• Last Post 07 September 2017
Luxan posted this 03 September 2017

Let's get stupid.

BattleForce structure value is a bit of a guess. Anyone know where to find that for Superheavy Mechs?


Mass: 200 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Chassis Config: Superheavy Tripod
Rules Level: Advanced
Era: Jihad
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-F-E
Production Year: ca. 3070
Cost: 72,402,500 C-Bills
Battle Value: 5,158

Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 200 XL Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 10.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 21.6 km/h (10.8 km/h) /What's your rush?/
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Hardened
    2 Gauss Rifles
    2 HAG-30
    1 ER PPC
    4 AP Gauss
Manufacturer: Unknonw
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass  
Internal Structure: Endo Steel                   340 points               22.00
    Internal Locations: 1 RT, 1 LT, 1 RA, 1 LA
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             200                       4.50
    Walking MP: 1
    Running MP: 2 (1)
    Jumping MP: 0 
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             16(32)                    6.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 RT, 1 LT, 2 RL, 2 CL, 2 LL
Gyro:               Superheavy                                             4.00
Cockpit:            Superheavy Tripod                                      5.00
    Actuators:      L: S+UA+LA+H    R: S+UA+LA+H
Armor:              Hardened                     AV - 660                 82.50

                                                      Internal       Armor      
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     60           95        
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  25        
                                           L/R Torso     42           66        
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  18        
                                             L/R Arm     33           66        
                                           L/C/R Leg     42           76        

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass  
HAG-30                                       RA         6        4        13.00
@HAG-30 (20)                                 RA        -         3         5.00
Gauss Rifle                                  RT         1        3        12.00
2 AP Gauss                                   RT         2        2         1.00
@AP Gauss (40)                               RT        -         1         1.00
ER PPC                                       CT        15        1         6.00
@Gauss Rifle (40)                            CT        -         3         5.00
Gauss Rifle                                  LT         1        3        12.00
2 AP Gauss                                   LT         2        2         1.00
@AP Gauss (40)                               LT        -         1         1.00
HAG-30                                       LA         6        4        13.00
@HAG-30 (20)                                 LA        -         3         5.00
ECM Suite                                    HD        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 9

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:     33    Points: 52
1         10      10      9       0      4     0   Structure: 15
Special Abilities: LG, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, FLK 4/4/4

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Luxan posted this 03 September 2017


Information regarding The Society's attack on Ironhold and their subsequent loss
there is quite limited. However, one strange report has surfaced from multiple
sources. One report described it as a mobile structure used during The Society's
desperate defense of their enclave in the Peregrine Mountains. However, other
reports have identified it as a Superheavy Tripod. Apparently the monstrosity
could barely move so the confusion is understandable. Only one report offered
any detail on its fate. This report maintained that it was not destroyed but
rather disabled and captured by the Coyotes. It seems likely that the Coyotes
would dismantle it in their attempt to distance themselves from The Society.
However, its final disposition remains unknown.

This last report also included rough technical specifications and designated the
monstrosity the Magnetar, due to its immense mass and because its magnetic
signature was first detected by the inbound Coyote dropships. Its massive leg
actuators only allowed it to creep across the battlefield, barely able to keep
pace with conventinal infantry. The Magnetar's most exceptional feature is its
over eighty tons of Hardened armor that make it about as resiliant to damage as
an entire Assault Star. Of course, the cumbersome armor does exacerbate its
mobility problems.

Luckily, it's tripod configuration made it surprisingly nimble and meant it had
no difficulty tracking targets. Its arsenal of heavy weapons was deadly, but
perhaps underwhelming given its immense size. Two Gauss Rifles and an ER PPC
offer solid, long-range punch. Two Hyper Assault Gauss Rifles pile on top of
that long range power and also proved quite deadly to airborne targets. However,
these weapons had many blind spots up close, a serious problem given its very
slow pace. It does carry four Anti-Personnel Gauss weapons to help discourage
swarm attacks. However, during the defense of Ironhold this weakness was
ultimately its downfall.


Thunder posted this 03 September 2017

Battleforce. Not off hand. Alpha strike has tables in the companion.

Which brings up my concern. This unit is immobile in alpha strike. So it might be in "battle force" scale as well.

Luxan posted this 04 September 2017

Really, immobile?

BattleForce MV is just equal to the 'mech's Walking MP, so 1 in this case. I thought Alpha Strike was just 2" per walking MP, yes?

Thunder posted this 04 September 2017

-1 for hardened armor.

Luxan posted this 04 September 2017

You might be right for Alpha Strike. I can't speak to it as I don't have the Companion.

But, as far as I can tell, BattleForce simply checks the Walking MP, which is not affected by Hardened armor. 

Thunder posted this 04 September 2017

Yep.  Found the conversion rule.  BF just checks the walking MP after all modifiers are put together.

AS has a few special case rules to make things make less sense.  Hardened armor being one,  Detachable weapon packs being another.

Donteras posted this 06 September 2017

There's a typo in the fluff. It says it has eight tons of armor. I was thinking that 8 tons is rather light, even with hardened armor.

Heh, eighty. It's supposed to be 80.

Snowjeepney posted this 07 September 2017

A mobile "Brick Wall".  

Luxan posted this 07 September 2017

Lol, nice catch. Fixed.